I thought I had better make this obvious :-)
FreeTherm is a GTK# .NET application designed and built with mono, but runnable on any up to date .NET environment with the required libraries.
I believe you need a .NET 2.0 setup, mono or M$
You definitely need GTK for windows
You definitely need GTK# for windows
The last one can be obtained from two places, one 12meg version here :
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=223067
And one larger one here :
http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfconte ... 32-0.0.exe
I'm unsure of the difference, but both seem to work fine.
Enjoy :-)
Fred.
FreeTherm Installation Requirements
FreeTherm Installation Requirements
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Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
Blasted, nothings simple.
When I run the 12 meg GTK# runtime, I get an error message that notes it needs .net 1.1. Yet I have 2 and 3 installed already. Leave it up to MS to make mild upgrades not reverse compatable.
[Edit] whats the deal with 2.10.3 vs 2.8 as the latest? Should I got for 2.10.3?
When I run the 12 meg GTK# runtime, I get an error message that notes it needs .net 1.1. Yet I have 2 and 3 installed already. Leave it up to MS to make mild upgrades not reverse compatable.
[Edit] whats the deal with 2.10.3 vs 2.8 as the latest? Should I got for 2.10.3?
Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
Probably my link is out of date. I'm not sure about 1.1/2.0 :-/
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Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
I don't think so, the one you linked to is listed as "latest" I suspected the two newer versions are being tested and the one labeled is the stable version. Any how, I just tried 2.10.3 and it also wants .net 1.1.
I'm also surprised to see the .net requirement. I seem to recall that .net's licencing scheme it quite restricting, however not currently pushed. I haven't read the licence, but someone once claimed that even though .net is really cool and handy, MS has written the licence such that at any point, they can choose to change a fee for all programs that use .net. Basically they can charge for your work. I'm not sure how true that is, but still surprised to see .net. Also isn't there a free .net equiv?
I'm also surprised to see the .net requirement. I seem to recall that .net's licencing scheme it quite restricting, however not currently pushed. I haven't read the licence, but someone once claimed that even though .net is really cool and handy, MS has written the licence such that at any point, they can choose to change a fee for all programs that use .net. Basically they can charge for your work. I'm not sure how true that is, but still surprised to see .net. Also isn't there a free .net equiv?
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Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
mono is the free .net equiv
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Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
Hmmm, .net 1.1 ~25 megs, Mono 2.0 ~75 megs.
So mono 2.0 should be good as an equivalent to .net? I'd be willing to bet that's right. They are listed next to each other on the download page.
So mono 2.0 should be good as an equivalent to .net? I'd be willing to bet that's right. They are listed next to each other on the download page.
Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
I got it working but I had some mild problems before I got it there. I orginally had it on a network drive, but got the attached crash messages. One happened in a recent MS update and is quite common, some kind of annoying security garbage. The other indicates freeTherm crashed hard. I then moved it to c: and it works just fine.
The network drive had name(s) longer than 8 char and no spaces. My guess it that something doesn't like the \\ip\ reference or perhaps it's a security thing with MS. Any how, thought I should note.
Now that I've got it running, I think I see how it works. However, I'm assuming this uses a circuit that has 5vreg to a bias R (default 2200 ohms) then to Rth then to gnd. The A/D reading is between GND and in between Rth and Rbias.
This program creates a look up table for use with FreeEMS (or perhaps other) that could be downloaded to the EMS and used to calibrate the data that comes out. Now that we have serial comms working (or mostly working), perhaps we should set the next mile marker as getting the log message to produce a reading from the temp sensor. Should be easy to check it against a cup of warm water vs the freezer, and some other data points.
So some future enhancements might include a little schematic drawing, showing the hip bone connected to the leg bone, using more than three data points to create the lookup table, using python and wx like FreeEMS Tune, and a disco ball for some flash.
The network drive had name(s) longer than 8 char and no spaces. My guess it that something doesn't like the \\ip\ reference or perhaps it's a security thing with MS. Any how, thought I should note.
Now that I've got it running, I think I see how it works. However, I'm assuming this uses a circuit that has 5vreg to a bias R (default 2200 ohms) then to Rth then to gnd. The A/D reading is between GND and in between Rth and Rbias.
This program creates a look up table for use with FreeEMS (or perhaps other) that could be downloaded to the EMS and used to calibrate the data that comes out. Now that we have serial comms working (or mostly working), perhaps we should set the next mile marker as getting the log message to produce a reading from the temp sensor. Should be easy to check it against a cup of warm water vs the freezer, and some other data points.
So some future enhancements might include a little schematic drawing, showing the hip bone connected to the leg bone, using more than three data points to create the lookup table, using python and wx like FreeEMS Tune, and a disco ball for some flash.
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Re: FreeTherm Installation Requirements
yep, sounds about right, 2200 is the NipponDenso jap standard.jharvey wrote:Now that I've got it running, I think I see how it works. However, I'm assuming this uses a circuit that has 5vreg to a bias R (default 2200 ohms) then to Rth then to gnd. The A/D reading is between GND and in between Rth and Rbias.
No, it produces a C file to compile into FreeEMS but some minor extensions could generate a file to load via FreeEMS-Tuner once we finish the work around those formats etc.This program creates a look up table for use with FreeEMS (or perhaps other) that could be downloaded to the EMS and used to calibrate the data that comes out.
I've already got messages like taht, but with the ascii logging...Now that we have serial comms working (or mostly working), perhaps we should set the next mile marker as getting the log message to produce a reading from the temp sensor.
I'm working hard to get your specs and aarons specs so we can all work in parallel. It all takes time though.
Good idea :-) Shameem ? Only if you are bored... :-)So some future enhancements might include a little schematic drawing, showing the hip bone connected to the leg bone
Not required, the spreadsheet in /doc/ can help you tune it to your data before generating the compilable file.using more than three data points to create the lookup table
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